On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 06:20:39PM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: > I do not think you are following what I mean. I'll try > to illustrate. > > First some comments on your tests: > > > Tests: > > > > 1. reboot normally. > > > > Result: gnome-shell is started at the login screen: > > > > ps axuww | grep -w gdm > > Did you login to Gnome? If so, of course gnome-shell will > be started. I tested on my F19 server with WindowMaker, > there was no gnome-shell process after login. > I do not use any parts of Gnome/MATE, so I do not know if > MATE uses gnome-shell somehow. If it does, then sadly I > cannot help anymore. Hope the above helps someone. Hi Suvayu, As I mentioned in a previous email, I use MATE and, as you, I have no gnome-shell after login. In that message I also said that I will test if gnome-shell is started *for* the login screen, which would be consistent with the original report. That was my test 1: before actual login and start of a session. Hi Ben, For low-end systems it can also be worth switching to XDM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XDM_(display_manager) yum info xorg-x11-xdm Description : X.Org X11 xdm - X Display Manager I suspect that XDM is less likely to be unexpectedly "tweaked" by future desktop developments. :-) Mihai -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org