On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 02:18 -0500, g wrote: > > On 08/26/2013 05:14 PM, John Horne wrote: > > On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 15:46 -0500, g wrote: > >> hello john, > >> > >> On 08/26/2013 01:39 PM, John Horne wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> Updated from F17 to F19 with a fresh install, and have hit a few > >>> problems. The main one is that my wireless interface does not come up > >>> (it is an Atheros AR9170 device). > >> > >> i do not recall exactly when something similar was 'threaded', but it > >> was a problem of timing as to just what starts when. > >> > >> awairc, solution was to start wlan last to give time for networking > >> time to finish configuring. > >> > >> sound reasonable? > >> > > Other way round I would say :-) > > > > wpa_supplicant must finish before the network starts, if it doesn't then > > the wireless interface won't come up. This was a problem years ago > > (Fedora 7 or so?) when the SYSV scripts started networking first, and > > then wireless. The fix was, as said, to start wpa_supplicant first. > > so you are saying that one has to have wireless networking before any > networking can be? > The association of the wifi network card with the router, yes. After that networking can then set the interface as up or down. It cannot do that before the association though (hence wpa_supplicant must run before the network is started). Obviously for wired networks, wpa_supplicant isn't going to do anything, so networking will start up as usual (bringing interfaces up or leaving them down). John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org