On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 13:22:57 +1000 Roger <arelem@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I followed the instructions in : > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=204752 > but must have missed something because Fedora 19 is now trash. > Will not even start to boot so I can't get to a terminal. While I respect Joe Zeff as a reputable member of this list, those instructions on fedoraforum are a total piece of crap. I don't know who wrote those instructions, but overengineering a solution for a common problem is a always a Recipe For Disaster(tm). Now nobody knows what you did, in how many ways were those instructions broken, and how much time and effort will it take to fix that mess... :-( > Unless I can get into things from Ubuntu, and I have no idea how to > do that, it will probably mean a fresh install. > > I had forgotten the difficulty and complexity of installing nvidia, > it certainly brings back memories, I think the reason I decided to > use Nouveau was because I was using Fedora as a test bed and updating > with new releases. Installing nvidia drivers is as simple as I have told you --- enable rpmfusion, yum install kmod-nvidia, reboot the machine. There is absolutely no reason for any of those to fail (unless in some very weird situations). All other "steps" in that "solution" on fedoraforum are either redundant, or downright wrong, or both... Just look at this mess: <quote> su yum update kernel\* selinux-policy\* reboot <end quote> WTF??!! What does updating selinux-policy have to do with installing nvidia drivers? <quote> su yum install kernel-PAE-devel <end quote> AFAIK, since some time now all i686 kernels are PAE. <quote> su yum --nogpgcheck install http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm yum install akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i686 <end quote> Come on, i686? Really?? And what if the user runs a 64bit arch? Besides, akmod-nvidia will pull in the xorg package as a dependency, no need to ask for it explicitly. <quote> su mv /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r)-nouveau.img dracut /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img $(uname -r) <end quote> And now this --- after it has been already automatically done by the installation of (a)kmod-nvidia, do it again manually, just for good measure, right? There are even further instructions to edit grub.cfg, change the selinux policy, blacklist nouveau and beat it to death three times over... I don't even dare to look further down! And all the while, the guy repeats in red-colored large font: "If you don't follow all three steps, your install will fail!". He should have better said "If you *do* follow all these steps...". :-@ Maybe some of these steps made sense back in the days of F14. But today, it cannot be even called "obsolete", it is just a big pile of crap, lousy advice and FUD! HTH. Marko -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org