On 8/25/2013 4:41 PM, g wrote: > > > On 08/25/2013 02:27 PM, David wrote: > <> > >> Sadly I have seen a lot of that attitude around lately. not just here >> but many 'places'. > > it stresses me to hear that. > > i would say 'i hate to hear that'. but 'hate' is a word i am trying to > remove > from my vocabulary. there is too much of it going around. My *real* Linux experience goes back to "Linux for Dummies' that came with a single CD of Redhat 5.2. As a complete Newbie I did have the RTFM book but did not really understand the geek crap that it was written in. Almost nothing worked 'Out of the box'. Some really strange named 'things had TUI setups. Most of which was geek talk too. Others were 'some strange name' config file that had to be edited by hand in a text editor. Which had some strange name. My *FIRST* experience with 'Linux help lists' was the at the time Redhat help lists? Help lists? Basically what help they offered me was that I was too stupid to ever use Linux and obviously too stupid to RTFM and that I should go someplace else. A friend of my son from high school offered me Mandrake 6.0. That worked out of the box. The monitor was set correctly. As was the printer. The modem. The mouse. The ZIP drive. Remember those? Redhat did not know what that was. And it had a really user friendly GUI setup application. I forget what it was called but you could hide several computers behind one 'Internet account' all all use the same account. And a really, friendly mail list. Sadly? What I see today is 'the resurgence of the monsters' that I remember from 20 years ago with Redhat. How *not to win friends and influence people!!* IMHO. And that is truly sad. >> You have a good one too. > > thank you. i will. > > Knock. Knock. Any Fedora 'importants' out there? You have a problem. IMHO. Hope that this does not crap on your good day/night g. Sorry for the ramble. -- David -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org