On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 10:44 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 07/16/2013 06:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > > Reindl Harald wrote: > > > >> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074 > >> > >> From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds <at> linux-foundation.org> > > > > Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justifications > > can be applied to virtually any one else. Especially, not *here*. > > People put up with his behaviour because of his other talents, but in > the long run that's not sustainable. One of the problems with this is > that younger and more naive people think the way Linus communicates on > the lists is a model to imitate. It's not. > > See here: > > From: Ingo Molnar <mingo <at> kernel.org> > Subject: Re: [ATTEND] How to act on LKML > Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel.stable, gmane.linux.kernel > Date: 2013-07-19 11:59:19 GMT (1 week, 3 days, 21 hours and 41 minutes ago) > > * Willy Tarreau <w <at> 1wt.eu> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:40:43AM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote: > > > > > Go look at Dreamwidth, the open source Livejournal fork. It has a > > > good code of conduct, so developers are civil to each other. They > > > encourage all patch submissions, and take the time to work with people > > > who don't understand their community rules. > > > > > > The result: 75% of their developers are women. If you give a flying > > > fuck about diversity, and want to attract women to your open source > > > project, your developers need to be civil, and not verbally abuse each > > > other. > > > > But this has nothing to do with a project's success or quality, gender > > is not related. Are you suggesting that with more women the Linux kernel > > would be a more successful project ? If so I think you're a bit biased. > > In my opinion, only its good people make it a good project, whatever > > their gender. > > I don't necessarily agree with everything that Sarah has stated, but I > think we can declare it with scientific certainty that utilizing the other > 50% of creative brainpower that humanity has available can only improve > the Linux kernel, and drastically so. > > ( The "how" is the 1 trillion dollars question, and I'm glad Sarah is > working on that problem. ) > Working or not working on a project is a personal choice. Your email client has the option to block someone if you do not like the tone of their posts. If you do not like the tone of a volunteer group, simply do not participate. That is simple. I sometimes don't like the tone of people in various ways, but that is a PERSONAL bias, not a group issue. If this were an office environment where you are earning your income by participating that would be different, because there are issues binding you to that environment. Etiquette is cultural, and so what passes as acceptable in one culture is not acceptable in another. The results of not following the group rules is personal eviction from the group. That can occur in various ways, but this is not a discussion on anthropology or group dynamics. Additionally this is a technical mailing list. Write a nice letter to some columnist who is worried about such things. On here ask and answer questions about technical issues. If you wish respect here, as in any group, earn it. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
