On 7/21/2013 5:40 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 7:35 AM, David <dgboles@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> most people don't need Java so it's space was >> replaced with something useful to many. > > Please dont confuse "needing Java" with that myopic/biased view of > "Java as applets". > > There's plenty of useful cross platform Java apps out there. I can > think of Jitsi, Vuze, Java Image Editor, muCommander... those are the > ones I often use, and there are others I keep in a pen drive like > Angry IP Scanner, Sweet Home 3D for ocassional use... just to name a > few. Not to mention the ability to run scripts written in any of the > many JVM languages like jython, JRuby, Scala and the like... > > http://www.drdobbs.com/jvm/a-long-look-at-jvm-languages/240007765 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_JVM_languages > > Just because you dont like Java it doesnt mean that nobody likes and > uses OpenJDK. H*ck, last time I looked RedHat was one of the main > contributors to it... > > http://www.redhat.com/summit/2012/pdf/2012-DevDay-OpenJDK-Bhole.pdf > ...they even trumpet its OpenJDK7 performance > http://investors.redhat.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=754548 > > Even RedHat has its own JVM languaje that runs atop OpenJDK: Ceylon... > FC > Excuse me? I am but a humble Fedora user. And I, personally, don't use or need Java in any form. As I said, as I recall, the powers in charge after much discussion and debate decided to leave it out of the ISO. But? It is still available for those of *you* that want it or need it. If that *really* bothers you - then your bitch is with them. Or? Like a man you could just deal with it. That's what I would do. instead of whining on this list if this was a problem for me. Now. Please. Let this end here. -- David -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
