Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Allegedly, on or about 18 July 2013, Timothy Murphy sent: >> Surely it is the easiest thing in the world not to read his postings, >> if they offend you. > > You need to see the bigger picture. > > As we all stand idly by and watch someone harass someone else, you > endorse the victimisation. No, you don't. Not doing something doesn't mean that you are doing something else. Following your logic, you would be victimising me by declaring that I am doing something that I am not doing. > When you declare that the victim should just ignore them, you make the > victim more of a victim. One becomes a victim when they let someone else make them or when they are forced to yield to an overpowering force against their will. When one doesn't let make themselves a victim, perhaps by ignoring the overpowering force, they cannot be victimised. Harald is not at all an overpowering force in this context. There is always the possibility that someone is victimised by making them yield to an overpowering force not against their will because their will has been modified. However, one needs to be careful with questioning the will of others, for the questioning ones may become victimisers themselves. > If we tell the victims not to complain about it, we victimise them even > more. People can decide for themselves what they want to read or not. If someone can't or doesn't want to decide this, please give them the option to restrict what they receive from this mailing list to what the moderation is letting through, and let those who want to decide for themselves receive everything unmoderated. That could be a subscription option, similar to the option of receiving a mailing list as a digest or not. For those subscribers who chose to receive the list unmoderated, there don't need to be delays due to moderation. Following your logic, either one or the other kind of people is victimised by censorship either not being in effect or by censorship being in effect, and you are guilty of endorsing victimisation if you don't let people decide for themselves what they want to read. > As you all stand by and endorse the perpetrator while they victimise me, > you piss me off as well. Please, don't victimise others by trying to hold them entirely responsible for your perception and interpretation of what they might be doing or not, and please do not at all hold them responsible for what you declare that they would be doing when they are not. There is no need to feel victimised by someone not doing anything and no need to be pissed off by nothing. -- Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org