Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

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On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074

From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds <at> linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review
Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel.stable, gmane.linux.kernel
Date: 2013-07-15 18:17:06 GMT (19 hours and 12 minutes ago)

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Sarah Sharp
<sarah.a.sharp <at> linux.intel.com> wrote:

However, I am serious about this.  Linus, you're one of the worst
offenders when it comes to verbally abusing people and publicly tearing
their emotions apart.

Yes. And I do it partly (mostly) because it's who I am, and partly
because I honestly despise being subtle or "nice".

The fact is, people need to know what my position on things are. And I
can't just say "please don't do that", because people won't listen. I
say "On the internet, nobody can hear you being subtle", and I mean
it.

How about "Please don't do that.  It won't work because ...."?
Not subtle and not mean.
Not sure what '"nice"' means.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Fernando Cassia wrote:

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rex Dieter <rdieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justifications
can be applied to virtually any one else.  Especially, not *here*.

In that case, they cannot be applied to Linus either.

I support Linus'  position. Which is related to my sig file. Sometimes
telling the truth and being blunt hurts. So be it.

From FC's position I would infer:
    "That's stupid.  Shut up." is ok,
    "Don't do that.  It violates a commit rule you should have known: ....".
    is too subtle to be wise.

--
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
- George Orwell

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