Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Am 17.06.2013 03:44, schrieb lee: >> Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >>> well, most people on Linux are using mdraid to avoid the useless >>> question about "compatible hardware RAID controller" because it >>> is pretty useless to have a RAID with a single-point-of-failure >>> in form the controller >> >> How do these people answer questions like how to connect 10+ SATA and/or >> SAS devices to their computers at the same time, how not to create a >> bottleneck with software raid and how to eliminate every possible single >> point of failure? > > why should these people do this with local disks? Maybe because they want to find to a balance between cost and usefulness that they are happy with. > such things are done with SAN-storages with typically > *two* conrollers for failover, if you rely on *one* > single controller and nothing else can read your > RAID you should hire someone with knowledge Yay, sure, I'll send you the bills. > but what the hell has this to do with mcelog.service It seems to be part of an attempt, directed by invalid assumptions, to explain how running mcelog all the time might be useful. > since nobody but you is using 10 SAS disks local attached Why would you assume that I do this? > hint: in such setups *you get* replacement controllers > and disks by SLA's with the manufacturer within hours Ok, and I send you the bills. > *you said* how can a different machine read my RAID > well, normally this question should be answered > *before* put any data on it Someone assumed that reading what mcelog might put into a log file was easily possible even when the hardware is too broken to allow this. I merely questioned this assumption. >> Are you assuming that most ppl using Linux have fallback systems with >> independent internet connections and emergency power generators standing >> by that automatically take over seamlessly when something with their >> used system or around it fails? > > pff you do not need independent internet connections and power > generators to plug software-raids to whatever computer because > you can plug them with any SATA-to-USB and mdraid will recognize > the array based on UUID's You're missing the point which was someones assumption that a particular component must be useless because it can be spf. I was merely asking if there's also the assumption that ppl go to all the considerable lengths required to avoid spfs (so that the components they are using aren't useless). Don't try to hold me responsible for other ppls logic, flawed or not. -- "Object-oriented programming languages aren't completely convinced that you should be allowed to do anything with functions." http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/08/01.html -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org