On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, "Rick Stevens" <ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive:
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>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens <ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the
>> internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I
>> continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more
>> helpful, it
>> might be possible to take this question and post it to the
>> correct list.
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>> The correct list for pre-release variants of Fedora (e.g. F19) is
>> "test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>"
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>> (a.k.a. "The Fedora Test List"). You have
>> to join that list in the same manner as you joined this list.
>>
>> All discussions about pre-released software (e.g. "F19", "rawhide",
>> even updates of code for existing releases) occur on that list. Once
>> F19 (or an updated RPM for an existing package) is released, then
>> discussions regarding that released code shift over to THIS list.
>>
>> In answer to your other question, grub2 is the default boot for F19 and
>> grub2 looks a lot different than grub did. The fedup operation makes
>> your system F19 and hence you aren't offered the old grub stuff. Also,
>> being on F19 prevents us from answering a lot of your questions since
>> most people on this list don't use F19 (yet).
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>> I belong to both lists (test and users). I have an F19 machine for
>> experimental purposes, but I'm not a seasoned F19 user. Some other
>> members of this list are also members of test, but the reverse is
>> certainly NOT true (most test members never even look at this list).
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>> Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking
>> that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful.
>>
>> If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x?
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>
> Ok, that's one we can probably handle. You can run newer systems on
> older kernels (many people do). It's not recommended but sometimes
> necessary if, for example, you have older hardware that newer kernels
> have orphaned for some reason.
>
> The odds are that you have an option in your yum configuration that
> blocks upgrades in kernels (although I'd expect fedup to bypass that
> somehow). Look in your various /etc/yum* files and see if you have an
> "exclude=kernel*" thing in there. Quick check (as root):
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> # cd /etc
> # grep -R exclude yum*
>
> Look for "exclude=" lines that aren't commented
I don't get anything.
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