On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive:
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens <ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it might be possible to take this question and post it to the correct list. The correct list for pre-release variants of Fedora (e.g. F19) is "test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" (a.k.a. "The Fedora Test List"). You have to join that list in the same manner as you joined this list. All discussions about pre-released software (e.g. "F19", "rawhide", even updates of code for existing releases) occur on that list. Once F19 (or an updated RPM for an existing package) is released, then discussions regarding that released code shift over to THIS list. In answer to your other question, grub2 is the default boot for F19 and grub2 looks a lot different than grub did. The fedup operation makes your system F19 and hence you aren't offered the old grub stuff. Also, being on F19 prevents us from answering a lot of your questions since most people on this list don't use F19 (yet). I belong to both lists (test and users). I have an F19 machine for experimental purposes, but I'm not a seasoned F19 user. Some other members of this list are also members of test, but the reverse is certainly NOT true (most test members never even look at this list). ------------------------------__------------------------------__---------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - You can lead a horse to water, but if you can teach him to roll - - over and float on his back...you got something! - ------------------------------__------------------------------__---------- Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x?
Ok, that's one we can probably handle. You can run newer systems on older kernels (many people do). It's not recommended but sometimes necessary if, for example, you have older hardware that newer kernels have orphaned for some reason. The odds are that you have an option in your yum configuration that blocks upgrades in kernels (although I'd expect fedup to bypass that somehow). Look in your various /etc/yum* files and see if you have an "exclude=kernel*" thing in there. Quick check (as root): # cd /etc # grep -R exclude yum* Look for "exclude=" lines that aren't commented out. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - I doubt, therefore I might be. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org