Allegedly, on or about 13 April 2013, Joe Zeff sent: > My guess is that your reference counts servers, because mine gets most > of its numbers from webserver hit logs. Unless you can see access statistics from some very general purpose website (i.e. one that everyone might use, like Google), as opposed to the stats from specialist websites (web designers, Linux users), the results are going to be horribly skewed. Over the years, I've watched the stats from my website, which isn't really aimed at computer users, but I'd still never claim it to be representative of the internet users on the whole. I've seen MSIE fall off its perch, many years ago. It used to be about 85-90%, fell down to about 65%, with the majority of the rest being Firefox, and things evened out once we got a third player. So far, this month: Browser Hits Percentage Google Chrome 8,134 26.3 MS Internet Explorer 6,950 22.5 Firefox 6,822 22.1 Safari 4,777 15.4 Mozilla 1,198 3.8 Android browser 1,086 3.5 Opera 806 2.6 Unknown 670 2.1 LG (PDA/Phone browser) 92 0.2 IPhone 84 0.2 Others 239 0.7 Also, Windows is down considerably more than one might expect. So far, this month: OS Hits Percent Windows 19,555 63.3 Macintosh 6,060 19.6 Linux 3,454 11.1 Unknown 1,403 4.5 Java Mobile 203 0.6 BlackBerry 76 0.2 OS/2 30 0 Java 23 0 Symbian OS 17 0 Unknown Unix 15 0 Others 22 0 Every now and then there's some interesting things in the access logs, like a C64. I'm not sure if someone's being humerous, or whether it the actual device. I know it can do it, just whether anybody would actually bother... In both sets of stats, it's supposed to have weeded out robots and only acknowledged real users. Though who knows how successful it is at weeding out the faked headers. I think that it's safe to say, that for a long time Windows will be dominant, because it's foisted upon people. It's the true computer user, or the seriously disgruntled user, who's going to try Linux. And out of the disgruntled users, there will be those who'd rather pay for Mac, or can't figure out how to do anything different for themselves. My take from this is that Linux is in about the right spot, though it's not doing itself much good with some the current change in design trends. There's no point being a clone. To change OSs, I want and need an actual alternative. And unless you make an incredibly dumbed down system, there's no point in trying to pick up the absolute masses of clueless users. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Mar 24 13:09:09 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org