On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > simple: > nobody needs java applets > anybody who requries java applets on his website is an idiot > this was 10 years ago teh same as now and in the future so you know better than the RedHat people working on icedtea-web? How about the Wuala encrypted cloud storage service based in Switzerland that uses a Java applet? http://www.documentsnap.com/wuala-securely-synchronize-documents/ how about network device admin applets? how about ssh clients done in Java, 3d viewers, mind map viewes, or secure ftp uploaders, for thin clients or cloud storage? here are some: http://jmol.sourceforge.net/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/zupload/ http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Applet http://www.cryptzone.com/products/mindterm/ Commercial services use Java applets too: http://www.sharefile.com/blog/sharefile-has-increased-upload-speeds-up-to-60/ October 2011: " In our effort to continually improve, our development team has created a function called the “Java Uploader,” which is now included in all ShareFile plans" Over the UK, BT´s "Digital Vault" cloud storage also uses a Java applet based uploader to allow users to effortlessly upload whole folders... http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/10365/~/how-do-i-manually-upload-files-to-my-digital-vault%3F Wuala (see above) Gee, I use a Java applet almost daily when I use keepvid.com, and it works very well. But, gee, you dislike applets.... I dislike orange soft drinks. Opinions are like arseholes... everybody´s got one. Yet, real-world applet usage contradicts your views... I guess your hatred of the applets solutions comes from the days of Java 1.0 and ´animation´ applets on GeoCities sites... I hated those too, but I then learned that Java is the easiest way to deploy crypto signed ´mini-apps´ accessible by the lowest common denominator of devices, and truly cross-platform... (Unix, OS-X, Windows, Linux) In the words of RedHat´s Andrew Haley on the OpenJDK list distro-pkg-dev last April: "(Hiding the plug-in or making it difficult to run) is truly dreadful reasoning. Either we think that the plugin is safe enough for people to use, or we don't ship it." FC -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org