Re: openjdk with fedora 18/firefox 19

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Am 23.02.2013 23:24, schrieb Fernando Cassia:
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> why?
>>
>> virtually nobody needs the browser-plugin and if you read
>> the security news of the last few months it would be a
>> dmaned bad idea to install this crap on every computer
>> as dependency because it is a useless security hole
> 
> are you saying that:
> 
> 1. ´this crap´ is something that RedHat devs work on regardless of it
> being ´crap´

websites using java applets are crap
they where 10 years ago, ando they are now more than ever

> 2. that redhat devs working on Icedtea are incompetent

no - java applets are crap by design
redhat is not responsible for that

> 3. that there is some fundamental flaw in the way icedtea-web is
> designed and makes it experience more holes that other pieces of
> software (ie Microsoft´s own IE that had a 0day exploit open for
> weeks)

jesus JAVA IN A WEBBROWSER as applet was always and will always
be crap at all, if a webiste requires it -> do not use it, finish

> 4. that you are unable to distinguish real news reports from FUD
> against the Java platform

java apples have NOTHING TO DO with the java platform

> 5. all of the above

simple:
nobody needs java applets
anybody who requries java applets on his website is an idiot
this was 10 years ago teh same as now and in the future


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