On 01/30/2013 10:17 AM, jdow wrote: > Oh really! You mean Alan Cox was right about F18? Hm.... FWIW, the problem has been pinpointed to changes in /usr/bin/login. Taking login from F17 "fixes" the issue.... https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/1/15/641 -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. -- Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org