First.... No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff..... Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bit....but this shouldn't make a difference. Anyway, I did the normal procedure..... 1. yum install telnet-service 2. opened telnet port on the firewall (not that it mattered since local also fails) 3. chkconfig telnet on 4. systemctl restart xinetd.service When I telnet in (remote or local) I get this.... [egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet f18x Trying 192.168.0.168... Connected to f18x. Escape character is '^]'. Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow) Kernel 3.7.4-204.fc18.x86_64 on an x86_64 (3) Connection closed by foreign host. And this ends up in /var/log/messages.... Jan 29 11:41:29 f18x xinetd[4488]: START: telnet pid=4665 from=192.168.0.18 Jan 29 11:41:29 f18x xinetd[4488]: EXIT: telnet status=0 pid=4665 duration=0(sec) However, if I add server_args = -D options to the /etc/xinetd.d/telnet file it "works". But, of course, I get debug info that I don't want.... The same procedure in F17 works fine.... What could I be missing? -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. -- Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org