Tim: >> Fedora 11 is the last version that I've tried on the >> laptop that runs well, but I don't really like it. Reindl Harald: > so you stay on a HORRIBLE unsecure system forever? Do you want to point out actual insecurities, or just presume that merely reading internet emails or viewing webpages actually does put me at risk? This isn't Windows. I don't run as root. I don't expose my computers as services available to the internet. And I don't subscribe to the wild paranoia that some people do when it comes to computing. > boy you are using simply the wrong distribution > go and install CentOS5 Tried that, at times. Unfortunately, last time I tried it, it wasn't good enough. And, as I've said, changing an OS on a system that you want to use, keep using, don't want to stop it from doing what it's currently, successfully, doing is a pain. >> And it's a major pain to update an OS and keep data (backups, >> restores, fiddly installs trying not to delete data, or the >> disastrously risky and messy to >> clean-up afterwards "upgrade over the top"). > come on i am doing it twice a year for around 30 setups > most of them are production servers, the rest workstations I don't care what *YOU* do with your systems. I find it a pain changing a running system, and have it still do what I want it to, on the new system. I don't do it unless I really have to. I've not been convinced that I need to. Something tells me that these servers and workstations that you change are probably not ones that *you* use, too. You probably don't care, or are unaware, of any inconveniences that presents to those who are using those systems. >> On this laptop, Fedora 9 works how I want it to, and so does >> the software I'm using with it. There really is no need to >> change it, until web browser incompatibilities become too extreme. > this is bullshit, as long as you are connectd to the internet > you have to take care about security because this is no > longer your private thing if your crippled machine is used from > third parties to attack others Again, I repeat. Be factual about this, not all "I'm scared of the bogeyman" about it. >> the Fedora 9 software I'm using seems to be >> fairly stable and bug free, as far as any software goes. > BUG FREE? > > the F9 kernel has security bugs as big as a house > the browser has security bugs as big as a city And so does nearly every single bit of software, ever released. As far as I'm concerned, it's as bug free *as* another system. And the current one is as bugged and as dangerous old ones, as far as I'm concerned. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
