After my third slug of coffee, I am awake! here are some more random facts that may/may-not be useful. one member in my writing group recently bought a =new= laptop to use with Doze and linux. he is a tech writer and very sharp, but knew little about linux. I introduced him to ubuntu. I have been using ubuntu for some five years. IMO, it is better than most distributions. he just bought a "Gateway Win7" at Fry's, which is a quasi-discounter here in the states. --from your TZ, Im guessing you are somewhere is oz. at any rate, this fellows told me:: MS has what's call= ed secure boot on Win8 (it prevents people installing alternate OSs -- spit= ting into the peanut butter jar). I hope they didn't start doing that for remaining Win7 systems. Guess I'll find out. </P> I assume that his win7 did not have this UEFI interference, but it is an indication of what's coming. more hack-arounds. On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:49:48PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 05:24:29PM +0900, nomnex wrote: > > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:54:55 -0800 > > > Gary Kline <kline@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > I honestly do NOT know what I did to fix the UEFI "thing":: > > > unless I followed somebody's hand-waving: "you can fix this > > > in the BIOS." > > > > Okay, so you disabled UEFI in the BIOS, and you are in Legacy mode (I > > guess) running F17 only. Did not know UEFI was already enabled on W7 > > machines > > > > <snip> > > > > > When you find a new machine, please do share which model and > > > make, etc. the tech I hired found me this model that was > > > > I will. It will be a Window8. I hope that won't make any difference. > > > what do you mean, windows8? I have never run run windows--not > even to torture myself. I have only run unix: sun, bsd, linux. > > > > -- > > nomnex <nomnex@xxxxxxxxx> > > Freenode: nomnex > > Registered Linux user #505281. Be counted at: http://linuxcounter.net > > -- > > users mailing list > > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > > -- > Gary Kline kline@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix > Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. > > -- > users mailing list > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Gary Kline kline@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org