Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Allegedly, on or about 13 November 2012, Steven Stern sent: >> Gosh, is it so hard to type "system-config-firewall"? I'm not sure >> about Gnome, but on XFCE, it's APPS -> Administration -> Firewall. > > The point being that new users will not know about it. There's no > mention of "firewall" in any of the control options in the control > configurator. There is no-longer a menu. And if you do switch to the > fallback desktop option that does give you a menu, there's nothing that > mentions a firewall in there, either. > > It's, now, most definitely a GUI system. Users are expected not to have > to resort to the command line. Why the hell isn't such a basic thing in > the system preferences? That is the problem, with Fedora you don't start with a minimal install as it should be, and the documentation is insufficient. Nowadays users are expected to know everything out of nothing, and forcing them into GUIs is taken as an excuse for the lack of documentation. The result is incompetence, which is encountered with GUIs that are "more intuitively" to use. People need to realize that this is the wrong way to go. > Not to mention that the error messages in the printer configurator > aren't of any help, either: Firewalld isn't running (what the hell is > that?). It says mdns needs to be allowed in the firewall. Really? > Why would I want that allowed if I'm not using avahi? It's wrong advice > to blandly say I must allow that. And it says Samba must be allowed. > Again, unless I'm actually using Samba, and the printing aspects of it, > it's wrong to advise that the firewall must allow that through. > > Geez, but it's badly handled. Perhaps they refer to the outgoing traffic through the firewall without making that sufficiently clear, trying to get away with insufficient documentation ... -- Fedora 17 -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
