Allegedly, on or about 13 November 2012, Steven Stern sent: > Gosh, is it so hard to type "system-config-firewall"? I'm not sure > about Gnome, but on XFCE, it's APPS -> Administration -> Firewall. The point being that new users will not know about it. There's no mention of "firewall" in any of the control options in the control configurator. There is no-longer a menu. And if you do switch to the fallback desktop option that does give you a menu, there's nothing that mentions a firewall in there, either. It's, now, most definitely a GUI system. Users are expected not to have to resort to the command line. Why the hell isn't such a basic thing in the system preferences? Not to mention that the error messages in the printer configurator aren't of any help, either: Firewalld isn't running (what the hell is that?). It says mdns needs to be allowed in the firewall. Really? Why would I want that allowed if I'm not using avahi? It's wrong advice to blandly say I must allow that. And it says Samba must be allowed. Again, unless I'm actually using Samba, and the printing aspects of it, it's wrong to advise that the firewall must allow that through. Geez, but it's badly handled. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.6.6-1.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Nov 5 21:59:35 UTC 2012 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org