On 1 November 2012 16:31, <vendor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Personally, I think the problem is the obsession with regular upgrades to > new versions on a rigid schedule whether an upgrade is warranted or not, not > the fact that they're failing in that obsession. If I have Fedora 17 > installed and things haven't changed so much, then just upgrade the existing > version. I'd be just as happy if Fedora 18 didn't come out unless the move > from 17 to 18 meant some huge functional change -- and then I'd be plenty > happy if the good folk doing it waited until all the bugs were ironed out. > This isn't a commercial system where faux version upgrades are necessary to > keep up the revenue stream. > Actually regular upgrades are part of Fedora's raison d'être. There's always a new package or new API that someone wants, or a fix for some issue. If you want an RPM system that doesn't do regular updates then go and try RHEL/CentOS/Scientific Linux. I'm not saying 'go away we don't want you here' I'm saying if that's what someone needs then those are teh projects that address that. If what you mean though is the 'rigid schedule' bit, then yes that seems to be part of the problem. And the move to F18 does mean a big functional change in the installer, which is what the issue is. It seems that the work on the installer was inevitably going to take more time than available in the release cycle, which means the release needs to slip. No big deal as others have said, but there's no scope to slip the release by enough time to get it done, so it's been happening by increments instead, hence the "FEDORA RELEASE DELAYED FOR FIFTH TIME!!!" headline. That's not an ideal way of working and it looks like they are now trying to sort this out. I'm probably massively oversimplifying here. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org