On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > so until someone knows what is going wrong in 3.5 the > right decision would have been build 3.4.7 for F17 too > instead psuh blindly 3.5 out - and after such decisions > someone is wondering why people start ranting? If there's one thing I know, it's that new kernels aren't pushed out blindly. If anything, I think our kernel team is doing a great job of being open about what they're working on, when they're planning on pushing out a new kernel, and looking at user feedback. They even have (bi-weekly, if I remember correctly) IRC meetings to reach out to more people for feedback. It makes me wonder whether or not you follow what they're doing, or are just assuming that they pushed 3.5 out blindly, to use your words. Also, let me once again point out that ranting won't get you very far here. If you have a problem with the kernel, kindly try to get in touch with one of the kernel developers and then exercise some patience while they work to resolve the issue. Remember -- people work in Fedora because they're passionate about it. Ranting in the users list typically doesn't make them any more passionate about solving your problem, and frankly, often causes the exact opposite reaction. -- Jared Smith -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org