Re: kernel-headers downgrade failure

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Am 03.08.2012 16:02, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 12:46:41 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Am 03.08.2012 12:38, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
>>> On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:26:43 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>>>
>>>> That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
>>>> versions of the kernel in case some users need to downgrade and don't
>>>> have it in their cache?
>>>
>>> IMO, the community would be served better if they tried packages from
>>> updates-testing early and more often.
>>
>> this does not help anything if there are fatal bugs reported which
>> stops boot like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=843826
>> and ignored in a way that since yesterday kernel 3.5 is in stable
>> repos for F17
> 
> 1) Ticket history reveals that there has been a very quick response
> by davej: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_activity.cgi?id=843826
> So, your bug report has not been ignored, albeit reassigned to a
> different component without any comment. Hot potatoe...

yes, but xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.20.1-1.fc17.x86_64 works fine
with kernels before 3.5 and the hardware i use in the bugreport
is not exotic

> In retrospect, I cannot tell whether davej should not have submitted
> 3.5.0-2.fc17 as a test update three days later, knowing that 3.5.0-1.fc17
> causes problems. It looks like there is disagreement about the problem
> you've reported.

but the problem is there

i have TWO of this machines, both doe snot boot until "nomodeset"
as kernel-param with 3.5 which results in something like 800x600
resultion on a 25" LED what makes it impossible for me to do
anything after some medical operations on my eyes, even no debug

> This particular kernel is also an example of a "karma fight" within bodhi,
> with several testers ignoring the guidelines, unfortunately:
> 
>   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Update_feedback_guidelines#Previously_reported_bugs
> 
> They voted +1, compensating previous -1 votes. :-(

and this is unacceptable behavior

if every koji build would give a link to the karma page
it would be easier to give bad carma, but as long this
is not easy possible it has to be enough that i test a
koji-build long before it reaches updates-testing and
report a bug to prevent make it to stable

holy hell it is even not possible to give "bad karma"
with fedoa-easy-karma in the state i reported the bug

_______________________________________

i had installed on both of my machines any kernel-update since F14
partly ones which never did reach stable from koji

after that having one which does not bot at atll, report it
and become the yum-response below shot time after is a bad joke

3.4 is not EOL proven by the 3.4.7 update for F16 in updates-testing
i even rolled out to production machines last night after internal
tests because it has a security-flag

so the way to go after get a report 3.5.x F17 does not boot on standard
intel-hardware the way to go is hold back 3.5 for F167 stable and
update F17 to 3.4.7 for now

=========================================================================================================================
 Package                         Arch                    Version                          Repository
Größe
=========================================================================================================================
Installieren:
 kernel                          x86_64                  3.5.0-2.fc17                     updates
 26 M
 kernel-devel                    x86_64                  3.5.0-2.fc17                     updates
7.5 M
Aktualisieren:
 kernel-headers                  x86_64                  3.5.0-2.fc17                     updates
846 k

Vorgangsübersicht
=========================================================================================================================
Installieren  2 Packages
Upgrade       1 Package

Gesamte Downloadgröße: 34 M
Ist dies in Ordnung? [j/N] :n

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