On 07/04/2012 08:43 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Fernando Cassia <fcassia@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> I am anticipating that I will be able to do that in Ubuntu but not in >>> Fedora, and conversations in Ubuntu forums indicates that my exact hardware >>> should work just fine. >> >> I fail to grasp what would be so fundamentally different between >> Ubuntu and Fedora with regards to virtualization and flash support. >> > There is no fundamental difference that I know of between Ubuntu and > Fedora with regard to virtualization. > > With regard to flash support, Ubuntu supports it more or less > transparently and, if you want to use it on Fedora, you can spend the > rest of your life on forums like this one. You don't really want me > here forever, do you? > > The difference between Fedora and Ubuntu that really matters, and if > you don't want to hear it, just stop reading my posts, is that the > people who use Ubuntu are generally more like the people who use > Windows and Canonical knows it and caters to them. Red Hat (along > with Fedora and its manifestly snotty community) turns up its nose at > such users. It doesn't want them. Surely this is more to do with Fedora being a free software distribution. Sure, we could relax that rule and allow unfree software in the distribution, but if we did Fedora would then be a different thing. If what you want is really a mixed free/unfree distribution, we can't help you. > Thus, if I need to find the *exact* Ubuntu driver for the very > popular webcam I actually use, not only can I find it, but I can > also find people who use it and talk about how to use it. If there > are such users in the Fedora community, I have so far not > encountered them. Red Hat threw its amateur users overboard to > maximize shareholder value. A few loyal diehards hung on. This > loyal diehard can no longer afford to. Clearly you've been letting the anger and frustration build for a long time, and it all comes out at once. But is there anything from a practical point of view that you think we can do, short of distributing unfree software? Andrew. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org