On 22 March 2012 12:56, Timothy Murphy <gayleard@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > I wonder if I am alone in finding some of the developments in Fedora-16 > actually make life harder for the user? > > I'd take grub2 and systemctl as two examples. > In each case I've read the documentation and understand the motivation > behind these developments. > But I remain unconvinced that the gains outweigh the disadvantages > of methods that are much harder to configure and use. > > I don't think this is just a matter of unfamiliarity. > I think one can say objectively that the new methods > are more complicated than those they replace. > > As a crude measure of complication the new commands > take longer to type than the old, > eg "systemctl start openvpn@client.service" > compared with "start service openvpn". > > And the output of the new commands seems much more verbose than the old: > eg compare the output of "systemctl -a" or "systemctl list-units" > with that of "chkconfig --list". > > Could anyone bringing in these changes have honestly answered "Yes" > if asked whether the new method would simplify life for the user? > I'd agree that the systemctl syntax is clumsier. But on my machines, the boot time has reduced dramatically. For grub2, one of the things I like is that it picked up the windows installation on the other disk, without any configuration on my part. It also picks up other linux installations on a multi-boot machine. IMO the added functionality is worth the added complications. Regards, Chris -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
