On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 12:56 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I wonder if I am alone in finding some of the developments in Fedora-16 > actually make life harder for the user? > > I'd take grub2 and systemctl as two examples. > In each case I've read the documentation and understand the motivation > behind these developments. > But I remain unconvinced that the gains outweigh the disadvantages > of methods that are much harder to configure and use. > > I don't think this is just a matter of unfamiliarity. > I think one can say objectively that the new methods > are more complicated than those they replace. > > As a crude measure of complication the new commands > take longer to type than the old, > eg "systemctl start openvpn@client.service" > compared with "start service openvpn". > > And the output of the new commands seems much more verbose than the old: > eg compare the output of "systemctl -a" or "systemctl list-units" > with that of "chkconfig --list". > > Could anyone bringing in these changes have honestly answered "Yes" > if asked whether the new method would simplify life for the user? I'll say this. I recently went to read the grub2 documentation and found this product rather obtuse and complex. As an example trying to figure out the camparative roles of grub2-mkconfig and grub2-install. One would think that grub2-install wold have to run grub2-mkinstall but as far as I can see it doesn't. How confusing! -- ======================================================================= Money isn't everything -- but it's a long way ahead of what comes next. -- Sir Edmond Stockdale ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
