On 27 February 2012 20:43, Bob Goodwin <bobgoodwin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> I always have "rhgb disabled" and display as much information as >>> I can get, use the "text log-in", start from the command line >>> with "startx" every morning, >> >> Congratulations, you've just found a test-case! :-) " boot plus >> >> startx are enough to reproduce the problem (with XFCE at least). > > > > Well then it is a problem caused by configuration changes I > made, but those are things I've done for a number of Fedora > versions, in fact I believe I became accustomed to > "Run-level 3" with RH-5.2 and can't recall ever using the > graphic log-in any longer than necessary beyond perhaps > initial start-up. Yeah, systemd seat/session management is new, and ConsoleKit will be removed in F-17. When using startx, you will notice that your session is not listed as "active", and hence systemd-uaccess doesn't change the device node acls when you're in XFCE. There are a couple of open bug reports, not limited to these: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684158 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769649 Further reading: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ckremoval -- I won't be able to reply here or read fedora-list for a week. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org