On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Paul Allen Newell <pnewell@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > [inline] > > > On 1/4/2012 10:08 PM, g wrote: >> >> 'wiz kids' of today have no concept of what 'the good old days' where >> like. > > > That may be a blessing as quite a few of the good old day were really bad > old days. > > >> you had things easier than i because you worked 'mainframe' where you at >> least had someone to ask. i had myself and an s100 box with dialup bbs >> and an 'outside dialin' to access local college 'mainframe' to search it's >> files and out thru arpanet to other colleges to search. slow, but it >> usually >> got results. > > > but I bet you learned more about "how to survive with a computer" given the > availability of "someone to ask" wasn't something you could count on. > > >> if you look at 10th hit, 'Bash Guide for Beginners', 'Table of Contents', >> you will see it is main for 5th hit. wherein 'Introduction 1.', 1st >> paragraph gives a good description of what it is all about. >> >> 'Table of Contents' does show a good breakdown of sections and should >> lend to quick finding of what you may need. >> >> i have never really found anything "short" for what i wanted to know >> about bash or anything else that i needed to find out more about, but >> i can say that 'tdlp' has covered pretty much of what i was looking for. >> > > I suspect (and hope) this material will keep me off the list for awhile > (smile) > >> >> most all of my assembler work has been for controllers and c and c++ where >> just too much bloat to do what i needed. plus, with al, i never had to >> worry of stack or buffer over flow. ;) > > > My machine code was when there was nothing else and my assembler was in the > early video games days where all you got was a 4K cartridge and most of the > time was spent trying to pack a much larger program into that bloody > cartridge. But assembler was good for me in that it taught me alot about > being clever and where one needed to be really clever. > > >> i look at it another way, 'why reinvent the wheel'. if you can make what >> is already written work with scripts, use it, do not write it new. :) >> > > With all due respect, this feels like you are throwing the classic cliche > over the problem. My comment was much more about effort/gain ratio at an age > where effort really has to be looked at whether it advances the main chance. > > I think we ought to put this thread to bed, its beginning to drift OT > What, and deny me the chance to reminisce about an old 6800 protyping board, building (though not desgining) my own high-speed cassette interface, designing and building my own dRAM refresh circuit, hand-assembling and typing in a FORTH interpreter in hex, by hand, and ... Oh, never mind. -- Joel Rees -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
