On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Craig White <craigwhite@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > [...] > not disputing access issues requiring Internet connection or security > concerns w/r/t others handling the storage and ignoring the basic fact > that e-mail is essentially an insecure medium to begin with [1] but... Well, while we argue about which existing access protocol is superior, we could be discussing new protocols and UI that could let us adjust the level of security we want to apply, let us decide where we want to store particular threads, let us tweak our spam filters and storage so that the false positives stand out for a few days before they disappear forever, etc. > In the 1990's computers and internet access were slow and expensive, now > storage, computers and Internet access is considerably less expensive > and thus the tendency to use more than 1 computer/device to access > e-mail is relatively common and is something that POP3 was never well > equipped to handle. And on the other hand, we can have a Sheeva plug or something similar sitting in our living room, under the phone, giving us access across the net to our e-mail and family/SOHO BBS, etc. (Shoot, with a little hardware hacking, a little ARM prototyping kit could be the phone itself. (And I look in my pocket at something that could be the same kind of thing, wireless, if the carriers weren't so fixated on trying to capture/maintain "their" "cash flow". (They don't seem to understand that the whole principle that validates tapping the cash flow is premised on service, and service is where the value is generated. Slipping off topic there.) > Thus my statement that POP3 is so 1990's. 1990s? Nonsense. >From my point of view, the entire internet, including IMAP4 is so 1960s. > But POP3 > enables relatively unsophisticated users to access e-mail in an > unsophisticated fashion and manage their e-mail in an unsophisticated > way and if that suits them, then by all means, they should use it... > heck, I'm driving a car from before and a motorcycle from just after the > turn of the century ;-) Automatic or manual tranny/clutch? ;-) (Fondly remembering the 1600cc Mitusbishi-made Dodge Colt 4-speed I drove in High School.) > Craig > > [1] There are some who believe that the US Government has already > indexed/read your e-mails... > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/oct/11/us-government-secretly-reads-your-email Given that Linux itself is considered a subversive activity by many of our CongressCritters, I'd say that the odds are pretty high that all the regulars on this list are, indeed, scanned and indexed. Be nice if they'd let me look in their indexes for that e-mail that my calibrated eyeball filter missed last week before dumping the spambox. (I have a copy of the message, but I like to keep the envelopes around for a while.) -- Joel Rees -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org