On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 06:44 +0100, Patrick Lists wrote: > On 30-12-11 05:16, Craig White wrote: > > On this list, we have a pretty wide variety of users including those > > that are simply desktop only end users that simply want to use a > > computer and aren't necessarily computer hobbyists nor system admins. > > Thus the fedora-users list doesn't even slightly resemble the other > > lists that you mentioned and it seems to be an unreasonable expectation > > that you have. > > IMHO those who are totally inexperienced end-users may be better off > with Ubuntu or Mint. Given the cutting edge nature of this project it > seems less suited for inexperienced end-users. The other projects I > mentioned also get their fair share of n00bs. Nothing wrong with being a > n00b. In many areas I am sure I am a n00b too. Yet those projects seem > quite successful in maintaining how they want their Community to > interact. Don't see why it's unreasonable to expect an on-topic mailing > list. ---- I'm not sure that I agree with the notion that Ubuntu or Mint is better for inexperienced users. The only difference that I can see is that because of the location where Ubuntu is based, they don't feel the same encumbrance of the US licensing/patents and thus it may be a easier to get mp3's to play. But Ubuntu list (to which I subscribe) has the same issues with topicality. Also, as far as I can tell, Fedora welcomes users of all levels of skill. ---- > Contempt? Nope, life's too short for that. If it's unnecessarily harsh > to point out the official purpose of this list and mailing list > guidelines then again let's agree to disagree. ---- I think it's reasonable to presume contempt when you tell someone it's time for them to leave. As for the guidelines - sure - but there are all sorts of off-topic postings including those by generally knowledgeable and helpful posters... ie the recent discussions on eye sensitivity on colors. No, you demonstrated contempt for a single participant - and actually one that was a fairly avid Fedora user who obviously uses aging hardware that struggles with the recent releases that are making it harder to use a computer with less than 2GHz processor and 1MB RAM. and yes, I am amenable to agreeing to disagree. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org