Re: Can't start portgresql after F15 -> F16 upgrade

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Am 17.11.2011 20:36, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 11/17/2011 11:08 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> Digimer wrote:
>>>>  1. This should have generated a more useful error, like "data is from an
>>>>  old version and is not compatible."
>> Systemd stdout doesn't handle this and probably never will. Check your
>> logs, as with any service issue.
>>
> 
> I think the point is that the error messages should not only tell you 
> that it failed, but something about *why* it failed so that when you 
> check the logs you'll have a better chance of knowing what to do.  If 
> all the program can do is put a numeric error code in the log

you are missing the differnece systemd / application

systemd gets back the nuermic non-zero code
the application is responslible write in their logs why it refuses to start

after upgrades you have normally to watch system AND applicaton
logs even if all starts

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