On 11/17/2011 11:08 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Digimer wrote: >> > 1. This should have generated a more useful error, like "data is from an >> > old version and is not compatible." > Systemd stdout doesn't handle this and probably never will. Check your > logs, as with any service issue. > I think the point is that the error messages should not only tell you that it failed, but something about *why* it failed so that when you check the logs you'll have a better chance of knowing what to do. If all the program can do is put a numeric error code in the log, the documentation should list the possible error codes with explanations. Good programmers don't assume that J. Random User will be a psychic and be able to read their fscking minds to find out what an obscure error code means, but by that standard, there are very, very few good programmers out there. The late Dan Alderson was a genius, and a fantastic programmer. However, one of his favorite error messages was "1 = 2." He'd use it in nested IF statements, where it appeared that all possibilities had been covered, to show that something had come up he hadn't anticipated. Generally speaking, there'd only be one place in the program where he'd need to do this, so if/when it came up, he knew right where to look. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines