On Tuesday 18 October 2011 00:57:42 jdow wrote: > On 2011/10/17 06:50, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Monday 17 October 2011 02:34:47 Tom Horsley wrote: > >> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:20:35 -0500 > >> > >> Chris Adams wrote: > >>> Define "first". Hint: that's not a solvable problem on general PC > >>> hardware (thus, biosdevname). There have been many problems over the > >>> years where the ordering changed on some hardware from one kernel > >>> release to the next. > >> > >> Well, either biosdevname is also a nonsolvable problem, or a > >> perfectly wonderful definition of "first" is simply "The > >> lexicographic ordering of the biosdevname generated name strings". > > > > Suppose you have a server with a two-port ethernet PCI card plugged into > > the second PCI slot on the motherboard. The biosdevname names are p2p1 > > and p2p2. By your definition, they would map to eth0 and eth1, right? > > > > Now, at some point you decide to upgrade your hardware by adding an > > aditional two-port ethernet card in PCI slot 1. The biosdevname names > > for the new ports are p1p1 and p1p2, while p2p1 and p2p2 stay the same, > > as before. But this time, according to your proposal, eth0 and eth1 > > would not correspond to p2p1 and p2p2, but to the new ports, p1p1 and > > p1p2, while the p2p1 and p2p2 would be renamed eth2 and eth3. Assuming > > that you plug all the cables back to their original positions, every > > script that refers to eth0 and eth1 is now broken, while every script > > that refers to p2p1 and p2p2 still works. > > > > IIUC, this is one of the problems that biosdevname is meant to fix. The > > concept of physical location is a well-defined one, while the concept of > > linearly ordered (lexicographically or otherwise) location is > > ill-defined. Hence the names are given according to the physial location > > rather than to any particular ordering. > > There is something wrong with ethp2p3? What KIND of device is easier to > fathom if it is part of the name, ya know. Well, I agree that would indeed be more descriptive. :-) Feel free to file a RFE if you think you can build a good case for it. ;-) Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines