On 09/29/2011 12:27 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 10:46 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 09/29/2011 02:02 AM, Craig White wrote: >>> On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 15:15 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: >> >>>> I think you're missing the point. A major goal of any leading-edge >>>> distro is to get feedback from users on new features. In other words, >>>> getting negative feedback from users isn't a bug, it's a feature. >>> ---- >>> sure - but let's not confuse excessive vocalizations by 15 people or so >>> to represent a significant percentage. >> >> We don't have any real way to figure out how representative complaints >> are. We can only act on what we hear: the squeaky wheel is the one >> that gets the grease, as ever. > ---- > I think you are now understanding why few developers monitor the various > users lists. I don't know why you think that. I don't know that few developers monitor the various users lists, either. >>> I vaguely recall the mantra... it's not a bug if it's not in bugzilla - >>> does that not apply any more? >> >> Huh? > ---- > are you that new to RH and Linux? No. I've been here for a long time. Longer than almost everyone else, as it happens. Your question seemed to be a non sequitur: AFAIK the complaints about missing buttons etc are indeed in Bugzilla. So I don't know why you made that point. >>> Then of course, there's feedback appropriateness... perhaps you should >>> earmark a bugzilla page, a wiki page or a forum page for sound off >>> because the same people griping about the same things over and over >>> again on the mail list really denigrates the usefulness of the mail >>> list. >> >> You and I don't get to decide how other people complain. They're free >> to complain in any way they want. If they think they're being ignored >> in one forum they'll find another. All that we can decide is how we >> respond to their complaints. > ---- > OK - respond I respond to complaints about the stuff *I* work on, as I said just a few messages ago. I don't work on GNOME. Andrew. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines