Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers have no responsibility to listen to user's complaints. However, the Fedora users provide a service to the ReHat company of identifying bugs that otherwise would show up to annoy the paying users of RedHat Enterprise . This is probably a weak argument to support the developers of Fedora software listening to its users but what is clear is the current situation leaves a bad taste in the mouths of the current Fedora user-base. Clearly developers can ignore our complaints, but I have no evidence that the paying Enterprise customers will be more tolerant of the strange direction that RedHat is taking. -- ======================================================================= timesharing, n: An access method whereby one computer abuses many people. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines