On 09/29/2011 03:29 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:26:44 +0200 > Ralf Corsepius<rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On 09/28/2011 03:42 PM, Alan Cox wrote: >> >>> yum groupinstall "XFCE" >>> set your desktop at gdm Remark: I am still using F14 as regular OS, however I have F15 testing installations (not in regular use) on 2 testing machines. >> - EFAIL screensaver > > --verbose? 1) On machine #1, xscreensaver never "blackens" the screen, but continues infinitely. It tried to tweak its settings, but no success so far. 2) On machine #1 (a netbook with intel GPU), after many hours (could be either 12 or 24 hrs) of xscreensaver activity, the machines "deep freezes" (no local nor remote login possible, Alt-F<X> doesn't react) - Of course, this issue could be caused by something else, but fact is it only happens when xscreensaver is active. On machine #2 (a ca 10 years old PIII w/ a ca. 6 years old nvidia GPU), xscreensaver dumps core after some time. My wild guess would be issues with GL, because Gnome3 crashes immediately and Gnome3/fallback also crashes after some hours. F14/Gnome2 had worked flawlessly. > Hopefully you aren't trying to use gnome-screensaver. > xscreensaver should work fine. It's xscreensaver. >> - EFAIL set desktop background > > Works fine here. OK, I will try to recheck - May-be I missed something or may-be something has changed. >> - EFAIL terminal sizing (Fix lingering in testing) > > That issue affects gnome-terminal, and yes, there's a fix in testing. > Xfce Terminal works fine and always has. ;) After ca. 10 years of using Gnome, I so far prefer using gnome-terminal and am trying to stay with nautilus w/ xfce :) >> - Sporadic -EFAIL restoring desktop. > > There's been some reports of this. I have been unable to isolate it. > Somehow the window manager crashes on logout and the session gets saved > without it. There's an upstream bug open on it... more information > welcome. OK. I also can't reproduce it deterministically. Two other issues, I haven't mentioned yet: * xfce's interaction with NetworkManager. The NM configuration I was using under F14/Gnome2 and F15/Gnome3 did not work with F15/xfce. I had to change it to get it working with xfce. * How to get rid of gdm and what to replace it with? Gdm had always been a major nuissance, which had never worked flawlessly, so I am inclined to use switching to xfce as an oportunty to get rid of it, as well. >>> End of problem >> >> Start of new problems ;) > > Sadly, all software has issues. ;) Inevitably ;) Ralf -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines