On 28/09/11 13:23, Phil Savoie wrote: > On 09/27/2011 08:58 PM, Kernel Guardian wrote: >> After nearly 25 years of life with Unices, almost 20 years with Linux, >> nowadays I'm pretty confused about future of Linux. >> Allow me to elaborate a bit. >> I'm convinced that the Kernel will survive and be better in the long >> term future. RedHat and IBM as biggest contributors within it and >> Linus as maintainer (leader, mogul ... ) give me faith in the future >> of Linux. GNU fits well on the top of kernel. That is a rock solid >> base for every Linux distribution. >> Last 7 years all of my desktops, laptops, servers are locked down on >> RHEL and derivatives and Fedora. I saw many changes, bad and good >> ones. But last one, with fairly unfinished, not even close to, so >> called Beta release, Gnome 3 DE is the worst what is happened. >> On the other hand, I like the new look, many promising features, ...etc. >> So, what is bad? >> The bad thing is attitude of Gnome (developers, promoters, project >> leaders) toward end users. They decide to abandon Gnome 2 and put >> distribution maintainers in awkward position. Maintainers must use >> (buggy, unfinished, untested) Gnome 3 if they want to use Gnome DE in >> their distribution. Breaking compatibility at API level with previous >> version put application developers in unenviable position. This is >> almost unacceptable! ( because of that I understand Ubuntu leaders ) >> > From that point of view I wonder on whose payroll are these gentlemen? >> This is not good way to promote OpenSource way of life, I'm presume. >> I will agree with opinions that DE need some changes, fresh ideas. >> Frankly, I don't see anything new that does not exists in other OS/DE >> combination. It is good to have DE for mobile devices, tablets .... >> etc. But that could be a related project with main Gnome, isn't it? I >> use laptop only when I'm out of office. Desktop with 2 monitors is my >> main workplace. ( someone would say "he is old-fashioned guy" ). No >> one can convince me that all Gnome developers use only laptops. I >> would like to see their workplaces. >> I was shocked when I read the response of one of the Gnome developers >> in a discussion about maximise/minimise buttons. I paraphrase the >> answer: "we where not able to model use cases for them, because each >> user uses them in different ways" ????? (I'd rather not comment this) >> >> At the end, using of Free Software is liberty/freedom of choice. There >> are many opportunities: KDE, XFCE, LXDE .... They have been created as >> response from people who thought differently. This is a waste of >> energy, time, resources, even money. As an old elephant, I could >> recall the story about end of XFree86 project. >> >> This is not the way how we can attract more young people who will >> use/make/change OpenSource software. >> Regardless of all these current events about Gnome, I will continue to >> teach my students about importance of OpenSource, FSF, and freedom of >> choice. >> >> P.S. I like to excuse myself about my English in front of linguistic purists :) > Very, very well said. Kudos to you!! > > Phil Well said, thank you Roger -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
