On 09/27/2011 12:01 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 09/27/2011 11:59 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 09/26/2011 11:59 PM, Roger wrote: >>> On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote: >>>> On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >>>>> Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them >>>>> free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers >>>>> have no responsibility to listen to user's complaints. >>>>> >>>>> However, the Fedora users provide a service to the ReHat company of >>>>> identifying bugs that otherwise would show up to annoy the paying users >>>>> of RedHat Enterprise . >>>>> >>>>> This is probably a weak argument to support the developers of Fedora >>>>> software listening to its users but what is clear is the current >>>>> situation leaves a bad taste in the mouths of the current Fedora >>>>> user-base. Clearly developers can ignore our complaints, but I have no >>>>> evidence that the paying Enterprise customers will be more tolerant of >>>>> the strange direction that RedHat is taking. >>>> This is all too vague for me to understand. What are you talking about? >>>> >>> Some say that the new Fedora GUI is unhelpful and possibly difficult to >>> use, preferring a simpler desktop. >> >> Ahh, this is all about GNOME 3. It's very unfair to describe the >> actions/attitude of GNOME developers at that of all Fedora developers. > > As long as Fedora ship a "first release", as you prefer to call it, as > "default DE", people will identify and set equal "Fedora" with "Gnome3". They're wrong. A DE is just a thin skin over an OS, as we all know. I'm a developer of Fedora software, and the DE has nothing to do with me. No matter how much I listen to people's complaints about GNOME, nothing is going to happen. All I can do is point out to people that XFCE might be more to their taste. > I find this very relatable and therefore find "throwing Fedora and > Gnome3 into one big bowl" to be not without justification. It is entirely without justification. > This new new-user-base likely is (mostly) satisfied, but many of these > distros' "old long term supporters and users" simply feel their so far > choosen distro's DE doesn't suite their needs anymore. This distro has more than one DE. Andrew. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
