On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 17:49 +0000, JB wrote: > Aaron Konstam <akonstam <at> sbcglobal.net> writes: > > > ... > > So this morning I tried to get around in LXDE and KDE. I found I quickly > > got lost in both. > > Will try to help :-) > > > In LXDE I could not get LXTerm (I think that its name) > > to be anything but transparent, rather than black letters on a white > > background. > > LXTerminal. > start it > Edit-Preferences > click Background, move Opacity slider to the very right (transparency OFF) > select Color name for your background > OK > click Foreground > select Color name for your foreground > OK > OK > > Yes, the trick with Opacity caused me some grief too ... You are right opacity tripped me up. > > > I managed to > > put Xterm in the Application menu but I could not get it as an option > > in a panel. > > Right click on panel > select Add/Remove Panel Items > on Panel Applets on right side press Add > from Add Plugin To Panel scroll down, select Application Launch Bar, press > Add, this placed it at bottom of Panel Applets > select Application Launch Bar, on right side press Edit, which should open > a window for Applications selections > in available applications expand System Tools, click on XTerm, press Add, and > this will place XTerm in Applications > you can repeat the above step for other apps as well, and order them with Up > and Down > then click Close to close Applications Selections window > back to Panel Preferences, click on Application Launch Bar, and click on Up > as many time as you wish to move it to a desired position, e.g. below > Minimize All Windows > click Close > Your Application Launch Bar with XTerm should be on left of the panel. The above procedure works. But how would anyone figure that out. Could it possibly be more obscure? > > Btw, I believe it is very similar to XFCE. > > > The way to shut down was fairly well hidden. > > Click Fedora menu in left corner of the panel > click Logout > click Shutdown > > Why ? No problem. It is not to big a problem. But being simple minded I want an entry called Shutdown. To me Shutdown is not a subset of logout. Maybe it is just me. -- ======================================================================= People seem to enjoy things more when they know a lot of other people have been left out on the pleasure. -- Russell Baker ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines