Craig White wrote: > right click on this [NM] icon to get a list of options. I'm right clicking on the icon now. It lists 3 items: Network Management Settings Panel Options Remove this Network Management > One of them is likely > to offer to scan for available wireless networks. It also might list > available wireless networks and thus would allow you to choose to > connect to an available wireless network that you hadn't previously > indicated to connect to 'automatically' This isn't rocket science and > is similar to actions required to use wireless networking on a Macintosh > or Windows system. Sorry, nothing like that appears on my Fedora-15/KDE system. If I click on Network Management Settings I get a window entitled Network Connections which gives information on my current connection. If I highlight this connection I get the basic data, SSID, MTU, etc. As far as I can see, the only options I have are to change these, which I don't need or want to. >> The only action I've found likely to work at this point is re-booting. > ---- > I suspect that you resort to rebooting because you have never checked > your options by right clicking the wireless icon in the system panel. If > it works for you... great. As I have explained, right-clicking does not have the effects you describe. What you say should happen is exactly what I would like to happen. > see my explanation above - the GUI way to run 'iwlist scan' Unfortunately, the only way I have found to run "iwlist scan" is "iwlist scan". > On the fly wireless configuration is entirely dependent upon > NetworkManager and the wireless 'widget' in the system tray should > provide all of the functionality you need. I don't know why you haven't > figured this out already because it doesn't correspond to what I see on my laptop > or even gotten that info from whoever you > referred to as being knowledgeable but really... it's there, it works > well and should do everything you need. If not, you should file a bug > report. The simplest explanation would seem to be that I am missing some package. But I included all relevant groups when installing F-15. ----------------------------------- [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo grep -i net /var/log/yum.log May 26 14:00:13 Installed: netpbm-10.47.26-2.fc15.i686 May 26 14:00:16 Installed: netpbm-progs-10.47.26-2.fc15.i686 May 28 11:37:55 Updated: 1:NetworkManager- glib-0.8.999-3.git20110526.fc15.i686 May 28 11:37:58 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.999-3.git20110526.fc15.i686 Jun 03 14:23:02 Updated: 1:NetworkManager- glib-0.8.9997-1.git20110531.fc15.i686 Jun 03 14:24:27 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.9997-1.git20110531.fc15.i686 Jun 03 14:24:28 Updated: evolution-NetworkManager-3.0.2-1.fc15.i686 Jun 10 22:05:05 Updated: 1:NetworkManager- glib-0.8.9997-2.git20110531.fc15.i686 Jun 10 22:05:07 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.9997-2.git20110531.fc15.i686 Jun 10 22:05:43 Updated: evolution-NetworkManager-3.0.2-2.fc15.i686 Jun 16 23:27:28 Updated: net-tools-1.60-117.fc15.i686 Jun 17 23:54:11 Installed: libnet-1.1.5-2.fc15.i686 Jun 22 21:59:52 Updated: 1:kde-plasma- networkmanagement-0.9-0.47.20110323.fc15.1.i686 Jun 22 21:59:53 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement- libs-0.9-0.47.20110323.fc15.1.i686 Jun 22 22:01:33 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement- openvpn-0.9-0.47.20110323.fc15.1.i686 Jun 22 22:01:33 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement- vpnc-0.9-0.47.20110323.fc15.1.i686 Jun 22 22:01:33 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement- pptp-0.9-0.47.20110323.fc15.1.i686 Jun 26 01:30:25 Updated: 1:NetworkManager- glib-0.8.9997-4.git20110620.fc15.i686 Jun 26 01:31:01 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.9997-4.git20110620.fc15.i686 Jul 01 12:20:32 Updated: 1:kde-plasma- networkmanagement-0.9-0.53.20110616git.nm09.fc15.i686 Jul 01 12:20:34 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement- libs-0.9-0.53.20110616git.nm09.fc15.i686 Jul 01 12:20:44 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement- pptp-0.9-0.53.20110616git.nm09.fc15.i686 Jul 01 12:20:44 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement- openvpn-0.9-0.53.20110616git.nm09.fc15.i686 Jul 01 12:20:45 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement- vpnc-0.9-0.53.20110616git.nm09.fc15.i686 Jul 03 12:09:06 Updated: evolution-NetworkManager-3.0.2-3.fc15.i686 Jul 07 13:49:08 Updated: 1:NetworkManager- glib-0.8.9997-5.git20110702.fc15.i686 Jul 07 13:49:10 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.9997-5.git20110702.fc15.i686 Jul 19 12:12:24 Updated: 7:kdenetwork-libs-4.6.5-1.fc15.i686 Jul 19 12:13:16 Updated: 7:kdenetwork-4.6.5-1.fc15.i686 Jul 22 22:40:45 Updated: perl-Net-DNS-SEC-0.16-6.fc15.noarch Jul 25 11:57:27 Updated: 1:telnet-0.17-51.fc15.i686 Aug 03 13:09:51 Updated: 1:NetworkManager- glib-0.8.9997-6.git20110721.fc15.i686 Aug 03 13:11:18 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.9997-6.git20110721.fc15.i686 Aug 03 13:11:41 Updated: 1:NetworkManager- vpnc-0.8.999-3.git20110721.fc15.i686 Aug 03 13:11:59 Updated: 1:NetworkManager- openvpn-0.8.9997-2.git20110721.fc15.i686 Aug 03 13:12:02 Updated: 1:NetworkManager- pptp-0.8.999-2.git20110721.fc15.i686 Aug 10 01:45:29 Installed: perl-Net-FTP-AutoReconnect-0.3-3.fc15.noarch Aug 10 01:45:30 Installed: perl-Net-FTP-RetrHandle-0.2-3.fc15.noarch Aug 10 01:46:48 Updated: perl-NetPacket-1.2.0-1.fc15.noarch Aug 10 09:59:08 Updated: perl-Net-SSLGlue-0.8-1.fc15.noarch Aug 28 14:31:54 Updated: perl-Net-Amazon-0.60-1.fc15.noarch Aug 28 14:32:23 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement- libs-0.9-0.54.20110812git.nm09.fc15.i686 Aug 28 14:32:25 Updated: 1:kde-plasma- networkmanagement-0.9-0.54.20110812git.nm09.fc15.i686 Aug 28 14:32:25 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement- vpnc-0.9-0.54.20110812git.nm09.fc15.i686 Aug 28 14:32:26 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement- pptp-0.9-0.54.20110812git.nm09.fc15.i686 Aug 28 14:32:26 Updated: 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement- openvpn-0.9-0.54.20110812git.nm09.fc15.i686 Sep 09 12:31:28 Updated: evolution-NetworkManager-3.0.3-1.fc15.i686 Sep 16 11:34:19 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-glib-0.9.0-1.fc15.i686 Sep 16 11:35:03 Updated: perl-Net-Telnet-Cisco-1.10-7.fc15.noarch Sep 16 11:35:20 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.9.0-1.fc15.i686 Sep 16 11:36:07 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-vpnc-0.9.0-1.fc15.i686 Sep 16 11:36:10 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-openvpn-0.9.0-1.fc15.i686 Sep 16 11:36:13 Updated: NetworkManager-openconnect-0.9.0-1.fc15.i686 Sep 16 11:36:17 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-pptp-0.9.0-1.fc15.i686 Sep 16 11:36:26 Updated: netcf-libs-0.1.9-1.fc15.i686 ----------------------------------- (I've deleted a large number of perl-Net-* packages, as I assume these are not relevant.) 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