Thanks for all your useful replies. | From: Joe Zeff <joe@xxxxxxx> | Do you have the SELinux troubleshooter running? I don't know. The new-to-me Gnome 3 desktop is still quite a puzzle. If I have it running, it didn't signal me in a way that I noticed. Is it part of the default F15 desktop setup? | If so, you should have | gotten an alert. For that matter, isn't there something that shows you | a list of any problems you had at boot? I know that if I boot my laptop | without the Ethernet cable attached I get an warning that it wasn't able | to connect to the net. Where would that be? /var/log/messages had the warning (buried in a lot of other logging, only flagged as a warning, and with no implications spelled out): <warn> could not commit DNS changes: (0) Could not replace /etc/resolv.conf: permission denied It seems to me that the NM "settings" window should have had some kind of warning in it. It told me that all was well with my wired setting, including the DNS server settings. | From: Miroslav Grepl <mgrepl@xxxxxxxxxx> | Could you open a new bug on selinux-policy component and we can discuss | it there. I suspect (and will investigate) that this isn't an SELinux policy failure. After much thrashing, I've come up with a fairly simple way to duplicate the problem. - boot with ethernet cable detached - log in to a Gnome desktop - in a terminal type the commands: su NetworkManager - at this point - the second NM will exit quickly, having detected another NM - the second NM will have created an /etc/resolv.conf with the problematic labeling unconfined_u:object_r:etc_t:s0 - now we are broken. This can be demonstrated by plugging in the cable and having /etc/resolv.conf NOT updated. Who is to blame? - the idiot user for running NetworkManager when it was already running - the second NetworkManager for creating the /etc/resolv.conf even though it figured out that it wasn't going to be staying around - the second NetworkManager for creating the /etc/resolv.conf with bad labeling. There may be some SELinux policy issue here. - NetworkManager's "settings" window for showing all's well when NetworkManager knows or should have known that it isn't. So: should I create a bugzilla entry? For what component(s)? | From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@xxxxxxxxxx> | There might have been a bug in the installation that labeled the | /etc/resolv.conf incorrectly, Now that the label is correct, if it | gets mislabeled again we know we have a problem. Everything was fine until I ran NetworkManager. Crazy like a random user. It seems like the system isn't fool-proof enough. | Running the | setroubleshoot problem would have given you a heads up on how to fix. In retrospect, that's clear. BTW, in one of my experiments running Xfce, I got the following popup window: [Error] GDBus Error: org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: An authentication agent already exists for the given subject [OK] That's a bit mysterious. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines