On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Gregory P. Ennis <PoMec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 08:18 +0200, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: >> On 09/02/2011 04:25 AM, Peter G. wrote: >> > Robert Arkiletian wrote: >> > >> >> I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because >> >> of gnome3. >> > Boo hoo. >> > >> >> He is not alone > > I agree, there are a lot of us that would like to extend F14. The > hardware requirements for F15 make a lot of equipment unusable; for sure > these machines may be obsolete anyway, but one of the nice things about > Fedora was that it would function on this equipment which meant a > desktop could be put together very cheaply and used effectively with > great software. > > I understand that transitions related to enhancements should occur, and > in fact are required to occur. What Fedora has done in this area is > great!!!! However, some of us would sill like F14 to last another couple > years :) Well let's be realistic. An extra 6 months of *only* security updates would be super. Time enough for F17. gnome3 is an issue for ME because I introduced Linux to my school populace 6 years ago. Students and staff have associated gnome2 with Linux. They slowly got used to it. Now if I put gnome3 in front of them, I can just imagine all the calls I'm going to get. "How do you do this? It's different. What happened? Why can't I _____? ....." I'm not interested in tutoring *everyone* in gnome3. I have lots of other work. For those that say, use KDE, I can't as I run DRBL so all clients are diskless with NFS root. KDE 4 performance is unacceptably slow in that environment. XFCE is a viable option but, in all honesty, it's a step backwards from gnome2. It's kind of like moving the Linux desktop back 5 years. Doesn't give a comparable impression to Win7. But it is an option. Plus gnome3 is not the only problem with F15. Systemd is also an issue because of the diskless, pxe boot, nfs root environment. Simply put it's just too much change for my use case and my comfort level at work. But don't misunderstand me. I am appreciative with the pioneering work that Fedora and Red Hat do. It's great to see things advance. It will be interesting to see X replaced by Wayland and having a display server that does not run with root privileges. My own personal desires and my workplace requirements are not always the same though. -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines