On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:00:02 +0100, Arthur Dent wrote: > Hello All, > > I am gradually getting used to systemd. I can now just about force my > fingers to type "systemctl restart httpd.service" even though my brain > is itching to write "service httpd restart" and I find this cheatsheet > to be very useful: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet > > However, there is one thing I find *incredibly* frustrating and that is > the paucity of information when things go wrong. > > When I am tinkering with some app or other and I mess something up (as I > often do), being told that the app has "entered a failed state", but not > *WHY* it failed is very unhelpful. At least with SystemV you would be > told that it's because a file is missing, permission problem, config > error... etc. > > Looking into /var/log/messages is no help (it just repeats the same > message) and very often the program's own logs are of no use because the > app has not started logging. > > I have looked at man systemctl but can see no "verbose" (or similar) > switch. > > I find that the only way I can troubleshoot a failing process is to > start the program directly from its executable, or by manually running > the init.d script. Then I get some useful information as to why the > program failed, and fix it. > > Jul 22 00:01:11 mydomain systemd[1]: httpd.service: control process > exited, code=exited status=1 Jul 22 00:01:11 mydomain systemd[1]: Unit > httpd.service entered failed state. > > The above error was caused by one rule in the thousands of mod-security > rules that I had just updated. This really doesn't address the lack of information that's available when a service fails to start using systemd. I agree that more information would be great. However, for Apache HTTPD, you have another tool to see what's wrong with your configuration. >From the command line, run: /usr/sbin/apachectl configtest This will return "Syntax OK" if the configuration file is OK. If there is a problem, there should be detailed information. /usr/sbin/apachectl -t also works. . . . . just my two cents. /mde/ -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines