Hello All, I am gradually getting used to systemd. I can now just about force my fingers to type "systemctl restart httpd.service" even though my brain is itching to write "service httpd restart" and I find this cheatsheet to be very useful: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet However, there is one thing I find *incredibly* frustrating and that is the paucity of information when things go wrong. When I am tinkering with some app or other and I mess something up (as I often do), being told that the app has "entered a failed state", but not *WHY* it failed is very unhelpful. At least with SystemV you would be told that it's because a file is missing, permission problem, config error... etc. Looking into /var/log/messages is no help (it just repeats the same message) and very often the program's own logs are of no use because the app has not started logging. I have looked at man systemctl but can see no "verbose" (or similar) switch. I find that the only way I can troubleshoot a failing process is to start the program directly from its executable, or by manually running the init.d script. Then I get some useful information as to why the program failed, and fix it. Jul 22 00:01:11 mydomain systemd[1]: httpd.service: control process exited, code=exited status=1 Jul 22 00:01:11 mydomain systemd[1]: Unit httpd.service entered failed state. The above error was caused by one rule in the thousands of mod-security rules that I had just updated. Starting httpd directly from the init script I found this: Syntax error on line 91 of /etc/httpd/modsecurity.d/base_rules/modsecurity_crs_20_protocol_violations.conf: Error creating rule: Unknown variable: REQBODY_ERROR and I could see exactly what I needed to fix. Am I missing something? Is there a way to get helpful error messages with systemd that I don't know about - or are we stuck with "code=exited status=1"? Mark
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