On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 07:47 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 07/18/2011 03:56 AM, J.Witvliet@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > >> the OP is using evolution in KDE and it fails to access gnome-keyring. > > > > I only ever use Evolution under KDE. It uses gnome-keyring just as it does under Gnome. The only difference is that Evo prompts you for the keyring password on starting up under a new session (just the first > > time) as it doesn't get this info automatically from the login widget as it does under Gnome. > > > > poc > > > > -- > > Seen that behaviour. > > > > Any chance of changing that? I mean, that gnome-keyring picking up the proper credentials? > > > > hw > > > This is exactly why (half) solutions like this are really bad. A well > designed service should be a back end that works everywhere - and allow > front ends to be built (or shared) for different DE's. > > In this regard, the wallet managers are a failure. > > Network manager does it right - a daemon back end and a set of GUI's > to partner with it. A decent key manager would be similar. There'd be a > single API that apps can use - and the GUI's for user use the same API > to communicate with it. > > The idea of having a tool for a common task is a good one - the design > implementation is flawed and suffers from NIH. > > My view of course :-) And mine, as I've said a number of times over the years. Last time I did so (can't find the reference, sorry) someone mentioned http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/secret-storage-spec. However that doesn't seem to be getting much traffic and the last update was 6 months ago. AFAIK no major distro is using this at the moment. Complaints about keyring/wallet incompatibility crop up quite regularly on various lists, not just here, but the situation seems to be like the weather: everyone complains but nobody does anything about it. poc -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines