On 06/20/2011 03:00 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:57:24PM -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote: > >> On 06/20/2011 09:44 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > >> > There is a paradigm shift going from Gnome2 to Gnome3 which I have not >> > seen discussed on this list. > >> I too noted the mouse deprecation in Gnome 3. Besides >> alienating a large group of users who simply prefer using >> the mouse over the keyboard when there is a choice, .... > > Do you people actually work with Gnome 3. Yes. Been using it every day for almost two weeks now. > If you are a versatile mouse user I suspect that you can > actually work just as fast with the mouse as with the keyboard. > Jab the pointer in the upper left corner, click on an app in the > dash or swerve to the right and click on 'applications', click on the > app you need if you see it immediately in this monstrous platoon > of icons, or go even further to the right and select a category > (Acessories, Games, etc) and click on an icon there to open an > app. Exactly my complaint. Up to the top right corner to get the overview, click the Applications button. Then, from the left side of the screen, a wild, nearly full width traverse over to the right side to select a category, then back again to the left side of the screen to select the icon if it happens to be on the left. Compare that to Gnome 2 where I go to the left side of the screen and click Applications, move the mouse an inch or two to select a category in the menu, move another inch or two to select the app. Why at least couldn't the Categories list (and scroll bar) in Gnome 3 be to the left of the icons so that one encounters it "on the way"? Same with workspaces -- up to the extreme left corner, then all the way to the extreme right side of the screen to show the WS summary. Now I'm presented with a bunch of mini-images of workspaces. Which has the window I want? Can't tell because all the windows are overlapping. Take best guess an select one. Now I can see which windows are in the WS. But damn, they are all white Terminal windows or similar that look the same. Squint and see if I can identify some familiar text. Eventually, possibly after a couple wrong guesses I find the window I wanted. I am not anti-Gnome 3 -- I am really making an effort to work with it. But most everything I've read here recommends avoiding the crazy back and forth mouse movements by using keyboard shortcuts and as I said that is not a preferable option for many people. And even ignoring that there are issues like finding windows in WS as described. (There are also some real WTF things like why is the "not found" message presented on the left side of the screen far from the text search box on the right side?) > When the app is open you jab the mouse pointer in the upper > left corner again, select the app with the mouse pointer and drag > it to a workspace, etc. You have everything you ever had, point > and click, drag and drop, just in a slightly different desktop > arragement. But one that requires far more mouse motion and clicks than Gnome 2 to do the same operation. >From poking around in the Gnome 3 design docs it is becoming clear to me that no one has actually done any real usability testing on Gnome 3 or quantitative comparisons to Gnome 2. >[...] > So on the whole there is no paradigm of keyboard use and Gnome 3 is > certainly not advertised as such. Read the 'Desktop Help' under the > ring buoy icon and pay no attention to 'misunderstood marketing jargon > and hype' and 'biased reporting of opinioted users'. > Experience it honestly for yourself. I have. And that's why I responded in this thread. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
