On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 01:00 +0000, JB wrote: > Now, I think that Fedora (thru its Red Hat sponsorship) is acting "by > ambush" - that is, there is very little consideration for opinion > expressed by users *prior* to schedule of new major features > (projects) to be implemented in next release. > It is assumed that what Red Hat thinks is good for them, Fedora, and > by simple extrapolation it must be for everybody associated with > Fedora (formally or not). > That's why I said the users and testers are treated instrumentally. It's clear that we (on this user-list) are users, beta testers, and guinea pigs. And we have little function beyond finding and reporting bugs, and explaining what we've found out to others asking questions about how to do things. On the developer lists are people with more input into how things will be done, with more potential to influence changes. But how individual projects are managed is external, and upstream. i.e. How we get Gnome, KDE, Apache, OpenOffice, et cetera, implemented are handled by those individual project groups. As ever, the advice is, "if you don't like it, get involved in the appropriate groups, or use something different." Which means, join the developers (some projects will be programmers only, others may have a conglomeration of designers and programmers). And can either mean switching from Gnome to something else, or from Fedora to something else. It's always been that way; use what's pre-built, or make your own. And, as ever, some projects go off on tangents so wild that they're unacceptable to people. And projects will live and die by that. If they piss off their users that they abandon it in droves, it'll die off, and something else becomes the new fad (e.g. we've gone from Netscape to Firefox, as the main browser; and sound has gone from OSS to ALSA to PulseAudio). Or it may change direction again, and people might like the new change. I'm one of those who're not keen on the incredible change in system requirements with the recent changes to KDE and Gnome. It's almost Windows-like in having computer staggering under the burden of a behemoth desktop, when I bought hardware I expect to be used by the applications, with the support system meant to be quietly in the background. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
