Hi, there is a very interesting discussion on Fedora devel list: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :) Denys Vlasenko http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-June/152323.html The poster, Denys Vlasenko, showed an inquiring mind and justified it by asking very relevant UNIX fundamental and technical questions, thus showing he is a very knowledgeable person. I share his concerns about systemd: - going beyond system init replacement - not adhering to UNIX principles (modularity, etc) - interference with sysadmin duties/decisions to set up the system (e.g. loading modules on its own and e.g. enabling sys capabilities and protocols) To Denys: Drill, baby, drill :-) There are people on test and user lists who are afraid to even touch F15 ... and the reasons are systemd, GNOME 3, etc. Things called "progress" ... I follow the discussion with great interest and so should you all. JB -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines