On 6/12/11 7:37 PM, David wrote: > On 6/12/2011 10:22 PM, John Aldrich wrote: >> On Sun June 12 2011, David wrote: >>> On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >>>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 >>>> >>>> James McKenzie wrote: >>>>> We need >>>>> to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use than the other 'junk' out >>>>> there. >>>> When you run Windows for the first time, annoying tutorials badger >>>> you incessantly about learning how to use the Windows interface >>>> and/or adapting to changes made in the new version of Windows. >>> FUD >>> >> I disagree. He makes a very valid point. New installs of Windows always >> come up with a tutorial and "helper" app. I have never seen anything like >> that on Linux. It's as if the developers are too busy with programming the >> next iteration of their favorite app to be bothered with documentation, and >> NO ONE has yet come up with a grand-unified "help" document (trust me "man >> $appname" doesn't always work...) > > Really? Seriously? > > What "New installs of Windows" of Windows are you referring to? None > that I have seen do this. Version numbers of Windows? Dates of install? > I can't think of any. WindowsXP and recently Windows Vista installed from media that was produced by Microsoft that you can buy at places like Staples.com. The operating system even gives you at tour when you start it. And if you need to go back to it, it's there for you. Now for the programs, there is this thing called pushing the F1 key. It brings up a help system. I know that OpenOffice.org's was a joke and most other Linux programs do this thing called 'read the man page'. Interesting. Get the man page for something like tar. Simple program and the document is confusing at best. Love info pages too. Would love to see something like hypertexted documentation. And you can purchase video tapes for Windows and Office, if you really, really need them. Office's help is on-line. Still have to find that for OpenOffice. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines