Gabriel Ramirez wrote: > On 04/12/2011 03:05 AM, Mike McCarty wrote: >> Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> Some of the reasons are outlined in >>> >>> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken >> Thanks very much for that link. It's very informative, and reasonably >> well written, though with a few forgivable grammatical errors. >> >>> Of course, the typical response is argue that, this shouldn't be the >>> case but that is at this point just wishful thinking. > > Hi, > > So the inconvenients of separate /usr will be apply to separate /var > /var/log and /var/tmp ??? I suppose it depends upon what kinds of rules get written by the distros and end users for udev. It seems unlikely that actual binaries in /bin and /sbin would be made to depend upon anything in /var. > and my reasons by that partitions are minimize file fragmentation and > aallocate only the space necessary with lVM meanwhile separate the files > by use case There are numerous reasons for putting things not necessary for boot into separate partitions, and especially on separate discs. Only some of them are mentioned in the article cited, performance being one of them. [...] > and I don't need 3G, > I have good Audio after some fight and filing a bug > d-bus, print and plug & play works fine > > these things works now in my F14 systems, so really new versions > (incompatible with separate partitions) were developed for F15 ?? The article is written in somewhat an overdone tone. There is no necessity, as I mentioned, that "major parts of /usr be moved into /" as it states. They want to make a point, and not all of the argument they present is actually realistic. It certainly would take some serious thought and some real work to fix things now, I believe. One could argue that the thought and work should have been beforehand, but the attitude I thought I detected was one of extreme reluctance even to consider revisiting the decisions which have beem made, let alone to take any action on them. Furthermore, there is nothing to prevent the end user from "breaking" things on his own later, given the way udev "works". It would not be much work, however, to find executable binaries in /bin and /sbin which depend upon anything in /usr/... and this work could, in fact, be automated. $ for x in /sbin/* ; do readelf -l $x 2>/dev/null | grep '/usr' ; done or something similar might do it. I'm sure there are some here more knowledgeable than am I about these matters. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
